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Translating ITAMAR to runes in one symbol

Hi guys , I would like to spell my name ITAMAR in runes the same way the band Wardruna spelled their name in to one symbol. Thank you in advance

Started by Itamar Medyoni Aug 26, 2016.

Has anyone speak or study Icelandic? Old Icelandic 1 Reply

I travelled to Iceland in 2,000 after using a set of audio books teaching Icelandic. I found that while the tapes were educational - they didn't reflect the colloquialisms and accents of modern…Continue

Started by Lazarus Chernik. Last reply by Francis Nov 19, 2013.

new version of linguistics video

three months ago i made a new version to the linguistics video that i have in this group. for no apparent reason the video ceased to function very properly on youtube, so i deleted it and re-posted…Continue

Tags: words, linguistics, language

Started by Francis Nov 15, 2013.

Runes and Shared Places of Articulation 1 Reply

Runes and Shared Places of Articulationby Francis TokarskiLinguexperience.comYoutube name: WedneswereSome runes have a connection between them because they are articulated in the same areas of the…Continue

Tags: occult, connections, articulation, phonology, phonetics

Started by Francis. Last reply by Francis Nov 6, 2012.

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Comment by Maagda Thorenson on June 3, 2014 at 3:44am

Good video.

Comment by Loclynn on April 22, 2014 at 2:53pm

Hello Toni, First I made this group for m friend Francis  so you comment may be directed to him. That said  there is only one Futhark that being the elder  futhark The younger futhark is a revision off the elder. Now the elder has been reworked in what is called the Uthark, but again this is just a variation of the elder. Now onto the mystery; On the right hand one might say the the futhark are simply letters  and in this mundane way they are just that. On the left hand however they are a set of symbolic sigel. and in this light I prefer the Elder futhark to most others that said there are a hand full of runes that have emerged from a much older system... Lets take B for instance. In runes this is the birch tree or Goddess, in Hebrew it is the womb of all creation and Greek Beta the other. ... Now that I have said ll that.. what is important in learning rnes, is not in the rune but is rather in you .. Rune are principles upon which you can atune yourself. 

Comment by Francis on October 15, 2012 at 9:55pm

My endeavor to talk about the Armanen Futhork's rune-names has been delayed due to me now making my very first Elder Futhark to have made from the ground up: from a fresh pine branch smelling of pine tar! I intend, though, to go through each of the 18 (or even 19!) names of the Armanen Futhork, to give my two cents on them.

Comment by Francis on October 10, 2012 at 7:17pm

My status on Armanen Runes... I found a source to learn of them that is devoid of the evil of the past. I am reading an Armanic Rune course by Welz. He considers the Runes primal signs independent of all traditions - all religious traditions, too, including the Germanic or Scandinavia... This is a good source, it seems so far, because with it I may be able to make some productive Runic commentary, instead of just siting list and cutting him down based on accepted standard etymology such as present in any etymological dictionary in contrast to what he states in Secret of the Runes. So did List himself not know what he was dealing with them? Did he use the Runes - which Welz states are creative powers - to create a mythology, a false one?

Comment by Brynhild on October 10, 2012 at 8:21am

Yes ofcourse this was simply my opinion, since Francis asked. I do think people should definatly do what interest them.

Comment by Francis on October 10, 2012 at 8:20am

Thank you, Tyriel! I think then a good start would be the Rune names of the Armanen Futhork. For instance, there is the Rune Ar, and this seems to be from the Younger Futhark, which has Ar, which etymologically comes from the word Jera, present in the Elder Futhark. J was lost beore A by a regular phonological rule. (I know I have to be more specific here - but this is just the beginning). But when Guido von List cites the Rune name Ar, he seems to be reminded of the Sanskrit prefic Ar(i)-, which is where the Sanskrit word Aryan comes from - a name of a people, and, I think, a word meaning "noble." The Aryans invaded(?) or at least settled among the Indians of the Indus River Valley (now in Pakistan); and they brought the Indo-European language family to Indian, e.g, Sanskrit, and present-day Hindu, Urdu, so on... I say this to make a seperation between the facts and whatever kind of German voelkisch Romanticism Guido (von?) List may have been thinking with his Ar Rune. He even calls his Futhark the AR-manen Futhork. But if the ar-(i)- root from Proto-Indo-European existed into Proto-Germanic, and hence the Germanic languages, then it seems the regular sound change of i-umlaut (e.g, a > e) should have taken place, such that ari- became eri; and then, after that, the unstressed i would have dropped: ari- >>> eri- >>> >>> er. Therefore, his Ar rune is only related to the Younger Futhark Ar which comes from Jera (year), and not the ari- or Aryan.

Comment by Tyriel [Rune Secrets Admin] on October 10, 2012 at 4:59am

"For me, these are two major reasons to strongly advise against learning them."

 

I think that if you have the interest and motivation, you should learn the Armenen Futhark so that you can think critically about it. Its influence is undeniable, and if you know about what ideas originated with Guido von List then you can separate them more effectively, and think for yourself when incorporated any good ideas he may have had into your own practice. 

 

I'll rarely say: stay away from such and such. I trust that people can think critically about what they are reading and think for themselves. If they cannot, then there isn't much we can do for them anyway, because they are bound to fall into the trap of someone else's influential ideas! 

 

Yes, even what I say should be picked apart! ;)

 

Comment by Francis on October 9, 2012 at 7:39pm

Hello, Liselotte! I have been considering my path runically to be the Elder Futhark. I do not trust the Armanen Futhork! Your comments are very good; I like them. But by making a blank rune - even if it was not part of the original Futhark - can it not still have a legitimate function? Can we not tweak the Futhark here and there in a way that makes sense? I find something meaningful to having a blank rune, though I do not use one - and, of course, one could argue that by definition there cannot be a blank rune (although, there is a space bar on a keyboard!). Is there anyone out there that could show the Armanen Futhork is NOT connected to its users who were clearly evil and malicious? Can the Armanen Futhork stand on its own without its misusers' blood on its hands? Did List discover something that was not his own? Did he rally make it up? Any comments? Anything good here with the Armanen Futhork? Best to be ignored?

Comment by Brynhild on October 9, 2012 at 4:00am

Hi francis, I have to say that I personally view the Armanen Futharkh as something similar to the blank rune. It was "revealed" to someone in the 1900's. Besides that, they are primairily used by fascist Asatruar/Odinists. For me, these are two major reasons to strongly advise against learning them. However, if you feel this is your path, don't let me hold you back.

Comment by Francis on October 8, 2012 at 9:02pm

PART THREE: This topic of List and the Armanen Futhork can be brought back to the topic of the Elder Futhark by reviewing how Edred Thorsson (aka Stephen Flowers) made recourse to the teachings of the Armanen Futhork in his works on the Elder Futhark. How much of what the Armanen Futhark is can help us understand the Elder Futhark - or ought the one be made to stay away from the other? This will all be put in a linguistic framework, as etymologies in regards to runes will be the main goal of this line of study.

 

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Translating ITAMAR to runes in one symbol

Started by Itamar Medyoni Aug 26, 2016.

Has anyone speak or study Icelandic? Old Icelandic 1 Reply

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